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Dallas is still Never Win Land

Charlotte Bobcats 99 Final
Recap | Box Score
126 Dallas Mavericks
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF 27 MIN | 4-8 FG | 5-9 FT | 5 REB | 2 AST | 13 PTS | +7

Looks like the rookie got over his first game jitters. MKG was impressive at both ends of the court, disrupting passing lanes, challenging shots, and attacking the basket repeatedly.

Brendan Haywood, C 31 MIN | 7-13 FG | 0-0 FT | 11 REB | 0 AST | 14 PTS | -2

Strong play from Haywood, with an unexpected offensive boost (though Chris Kaman scored nearly flawlessly against the Bobcats front court, that was a team effort).

Byron Mullens, C 32 MIN | 7-18 FG | 0-0 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 16 PTS | -19

Still taking too many threes for my test, Byron did knock a couple down. As Steve Martin pointed out in the broadcast, the two Mullens made came within the offense, where Mullens got wide open looks from the corner setup by teammates. He’s got the stroke for it, but needs to pick his spots better.

Kemba Walker, PG 31 MIN | 4-10 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 5 AST | 10 PTS | -17

Kemba came back to Earth after the scorching opening night. I did however really like the pressure Kemba applied to th Mavericks ball handlers, harassing Darren Collison out to mid court at times.

Gerald Henderson, SG 20 MIN | 2-9 FG | 3-4 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 7 PTS | -16

Junior couldn’t get the midrange game going tonight, and then left with a sprained foot. X-rays were negative, fortunately, so nothing more severe.

Bismack Biyombo, PF 11 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -16

A fairly invisible night for Bismack. He got pulled after a careless turnover on the inbounds pass following a Mavs score. Still seems too keyed up at times.

Tyrus Thomas, PF 19 MIN | 4-7 FG | 1-2 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 9 PTS | -18

A better showing from Tyrus in game 2. Took his midrange jumpers in the flow of the offense rather than forcing them, and did a better job being in position defensively and not gambling so much for steals.

Ramon Sessions, PG 28 MIN | 8-13 FG | 5-5 FT | 4 REB | 5 AST | 22 PTS | -16

It was a very impressive showing for Ramon on night two, offensively. Defensively, you see a big difference between the pairings of Kemba/Gerald and Ramon/Gordon.

Four Things We Saw

  1. The Bobcats were outscored 11-0 in transition during the first, leading to a 31-19 Dallas advantage at the end of 1.
  2. The Mavericks closed the half on a 9-0 run, to take an 8-point advantage to the locker room. It came off a 3 on penetration, a fast-break and-one, and a runner for 3 at the buzzer. The run turned a great quarter for the Bobcats into a demoralizing deficit.
  3. In the third, the Mavs hit 6 of 7 from three-point range, as they opened up a 16-point lead. Some were contested and some came from the Bobcats zone, but it put the Bobcats on the brink of 0-16 against the Mavs.
  4. The Mavs started the fourth on a 12-3 run to end the game, with two more 3s for good measure. The Mavs finished the game 16-25 from deep, and the Bobcats will have to improve their rotations in their zones to force teams off the three point line. Dallas capitalized in the way Indiana failed to.

22 comments to Dallas is still Never Win Land

  • 4aseer

    I have to wonder if we are going to stick with the zone against these guys next time but I understand that it takes time to install a new system but I hate to watch Mayo get uncontested shots, ouch.

  • 4aseer

    Maybe in the next game we can spread the zone and double team Mayo at the three point line, ahahaha

  • 4aseer

    How much of this is learning a new sys or just plain not paying attention to the hot hand on the floor, i mean no matter the defense scheme some plain common sense is ever so helpful, right?

  • 4aseer

    I’m sorry, I don’t mean to sound too harsh, I just don’t want anyone to score on us ever again, ever.

  • 4aseer

    No more points for anybody against the bobcats…. as much confidence as I have in Mullens ability to shoot the three, although he is not having a great start, I still have much more confidence in him stuffing back a rebound, or making a great low post assist because those hands, I just can understand why these seven foot guys like taking threes when they can just dunk it.

  • Tommy Corchiani

    @4aseer, he has trouble banging down low with the big boys, and he also has a great stroke. Nonetheless he certainly needs to cut down on the perimeter jumpers. He’s best when he gets his shot off through the offense rather than forcing up 3′s. Give Mully some time his shot will come around but he doesn’t need to be shooting 8 3′s a game.

  • Tommy Corchiani

    Oh also @4aseer I’m with you a little bit on the zone as well. Zones haven’t had to much success in the NBA. Our trap zone type deal will force TO’s and cause bad shots, but good shooting teams will tear us a part. Boy, did Mayo have a field day.

  • charlottean

    Mullens will develop more post game as he gains weight. Remember he’s only 23, by the time he’s 28 expect another 20 pounds of bulk to throw around. I want to see him mix it up, but the best way for that to happen is for the offense to run through him. Let him initiate a pick and roll with kemba or henderson or a post up to start basically every possession he’s on the floor for. Every shot invested in him is going to be a confidence builder later. He just has to get used to taking 18 shots a game for him to start hitting 9 of em. I don’t want him taking 8 3′s a game though, that’s for sure. Not unless he hit the first 5.

    I also didn’t see mayo get too many wide open uncontested looks. he was just on fire. as was carter. We played good defense, they were just feeling it. Have to be pleased with scoring 99 points and forcing 22 turnovers. I would rather force teams to shoot 3′s than layups. we will either win or lose big that way. there aren’t a whole lot of elite shooting teams in the league. dallas def isn’t one of em without dirk but they looked great. I would imagine new york, miami, maybe san antonio, maybe atlanta, maybe new orleans, maybe denver, maybe toronto would probably be the best.

    Patience is going to be on the menu with mullens, kemba, biyombo, mkg, etc. I want to see those guys play, henderson too. and play together. it’s nice seeing haywood play good but that’s not really helping the franchise long term unless he plays himself into a huge trade asset for us when his restrictions are lifted. same for gordon and sessions. The key is in developing our 5 young pieces. and keeping them together.

    and cutting cory higgins already. seriously. It’s not good for him, it’s not good for us. that dude needs to be in europe building his own career on his own merit. He’s losing years where he should be playing elsewhere. and we’re losing a roster spot that would be better suited on shaun livingston or the like. looking for the next matt carroll or jeremy lin or steve novak or danny green.

    we had that semi press on for about 2 seconds against indiana and george hill just easily passed out of it, but it’s still effective (and was) at getting them out of rhythm on offense. I think the way people talk about zones and presses not working at the nba level are the same people that used to say the option wouldn’t work at the nfl level and running QB’s was a fad that would end. you watch NFL games nowadays and you got carolina, washington, seattle, philly, san francisco, all running variations and tebow did a ton of it last year with some success in denver. probably about to do a ton of it in new york.

    i think with the right talent level, it can be effective. point guards used to effectively man up full court in the 90′s. walker has shown he can do that. That’s probably the biggest thing he’s brought to the table this year compared to last. He can be an absolute PAIN defensively. You don’t want to exhaust him and allow teams time to adjust but to use it in situations to wreak havoc? absolutely. The people it won’t work against are the lebrons and kevin durants. Any time you have a 3 or 4 with a handle, you are basically press and trap proof. I don’t think 30 teams have that guy though. maybe 4 or 5 do.

  • Mullens needs to forget about chucking threes and focus on getting his points in the paint. The Bobcats don’t need a big man stuck outside chucking threes–they have enough players for that. He needs to have his back to the basket as much as possible.

  • 4aseer

    yeah, i like the pick and roll with mullens but i still think the three points a guy might get isn’t worth not having the rebounding potential of a seven footer in the paint, its just math, i think many of the young guys have trouble being creative in the paint and thats a shame cause it is an art in itself.

  • charlottean

    It’s offensive rebounding, not defensive rebounding. Offensive rebounding is already a low % probability. And he’s actually done a great job of crashing the offensive glass. I don’t think you guys are accounting for how valuable a big man who can shoot is. It does wonders for spacing the floor. Considering he’s no doubt the best shooter in the starting lineup…..somebody HAS to spread the floor. I’d rather he’s chucking up jumpers than kemba or MKG.

    I don’t want him taking 8 3′s in games that matter. But these games don’t matter like that. He can chuck away from wherever for all I care. They need to let him go do whatever he needs to do and find his game because the possibilities are truly endless with a guy of his size and skill set. But if we put him in a box and say “post up and hook shot” and that’s it? you’re wasting the guy’s ability. dude is a shooter. is he a 3 point shooter? he wasn’t, but he’s working on that. He might be 2 of 14 or whatever in 2 games…but I fully expect dude to finish the year around 33%. And go upwards year by year.

    and improve his post game as well. Him being able to make a 3 equates to him being able to draw opposing bigs out so that he can drive by them on the dribble. he’s not going to be beating anybody off the dribble from 8 feet.

  • 4aseer

    I still can’t imagine we wouldn’t win more games if he expends his energy on the offensive boards instead of the three point line, i mean, maybe he takes one a game or two tops, if he hits one out of two, then maybe another and the rest of the time crash the board. I don’t think you are limiting a seven footer by keeping him in the low post, I think this is where he should naturally thrive and then as a pro, learn to be more creative with his low post game.

  • 4aseer

    he took eight three pointers but i do not recall one hook shot

  • 4aseer

    You have to have a real mental toughness to play down low, he has to bang it up with guys and I feel like maybe he is avoiding it but you just gotta go down there and be a boss, don’t let no one push you around!

  • 4aseer

    he needs to get a few technicals, throw a bow or two, whatever it takes to have some attitude

  • charlottean

    pro technicals (-1 points) anti 3′s. ok.

  • 4aseer

    i mean he can hold his position, these refs are quick to call offensive fouls now with the no flop in place

  • charlottean

    I think dude should be taking a max of 5 threes and getting somewhere between 15-18 shots per game so I mean we’re not exactly disagreeing. but i do think you are undervaluing what he can do for our team. Ideally, what happens is…..he draws a smaller cover who can guard him on the perimeter and he easily shoots over him, easily posts him up, etc. OR he draws the big man and can easily beat him off the dribble AND allow for haywood/biyombo to have a good post up matchup down low.

    the shooting spreads the floor, and thus far, he’s been getting offensive boards at a solid rate. brook lopez isn’t launching 3′s and he’s STILL not getting any rebounds.

  • bobcatsFAN

    i think playing mullens like dallas does dirk is probably the best for him. just because hes 7 foot doesn’t mean he has to be a center. he can stretch the floor and allow driving lanes for kemba and sessions. if kemba and sessions can score in the paint a few times, then they can drive and kick to mullens for that mid range jump shot thats butter for him.

  • Spencer/SDS

    they are thinking in the old league where big men who can bang down low was everything to a team, now as a big man you either have to be extremly athletic while being close to 7 ft tall-very rare, or being a 7 footer that can shoot, we got the shooter and spreading the floor for this team is so important-this team has NO ONE THAT CAN SHOOT, NO ONE, after Ben Gordon we have two guys i would rely to hit a 3, mullens and Reggie williams-maybe…Sessions has had one good year shooting from the 3-should keep that up and Kemba jsut a streaky shooter that has never been known for his range…so this team ahs a bunch of guys who can only score of mid range jumpers and driving to the basket…

    starting lineup where each player is best suited to go

    Kemba-driving to the paint,
    Henderson-mid range/high post
    MKG-Driving/on the boards
    Mullens-Mid to 3pt arc
    If u make mullens the “offensive post guy”
    Kemba Driving-runs into Mullens/Haywood/MKG-mkg can’t shoot Henderson is kinda outside but can’t knock down a 3 consistantly-altoguh he has improved over last year…

    point being, this is why u guys arn’t coaches-neither am i, but the reason why mullens didn’t/won’t work on improving his post at least this year is simply put that if he does we then have no ability to spread the floor and force defenders to commit to someone on the outside…Biyombo should be the one we talk about improving his post game^^, Mullens will get that in years to come, but for now he needs to just keep on shooting jumpers and learn how to do it in his sleep…a 7 ft jumpshooter is DEADLY, hard as hell to block, spreads your 4s out so they can’t help defend against the drive…can’t put a 3 on him cuz he is too big and he can just shoot over you all day…or post you up if need be…

  • 4aseer

    haha yeah i am old school, I agree, we have NO ONE else who can shoot and that is a big problem in the NBA, one three point shooter gets hot against us and we can’t match it, thats what it seems like right now. Mullens had a better night shooting last night but we got beat up on the boards??? idk man I loved the way mullens dunked that stick back rebound though

  • 4aseer

    maybe we could persuade curry to go out there and shoot a few