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Pacers take all of the rebounds, win

Charlotte Bobcats 88 Final
Recap | Box Score
96 Indiana Pacers
Hakim Warrick, PF 33 MIN | 5-13 FG | 3-5 FT | 7 REB | 2 AST | 13 PTS | +3

Hakim really likes the midrange jumper – he just doesn’t make it much, going 2 of 7 from the 10 to 20 feet range. And due to his slight frame, he struggles to defend bruisers (like David West) and isn’t great rebounding since he gets pushed under the basket (as the Pacers grabbed 17 offensive rebounds).

Bismack Biyombo, PF 21 MIN | 4-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 8 PTS | +8

The same defensive and rebounding issues I mentioned for Hakim are problems for Bismack as well – the Pacers size with Hibbert and West was tough for the Bobcats to handle. Bis actually handled himself all right on offense tonight, with one nice move into the paint against Hibbert for a score – he was patient and used his length and quickness, a nice play to see.

Gerald Henderon, SG 28 MIN | 6-12 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 12 PTS | +6

Henderson started hot, but couldn’t keep it going, finishing with a point per shot, and not much else to show – except for 3 turnovers.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF 21 MIN | 2-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 8 REB | 2 AST | 4 PTS | +8

MKG wasn’t as active offensively tonight, not diving into the lane like we expect to see. He again settled for a couple of long jumpers, with them resulting in misses. And a late defensive lapse where he got caught sneaking towards David West and leaving Lance Stephenson free for a dunk resulted in him getting pulled for the end of the game.

Kemba Walker, PG 31 MIN | 5-9 FG | 5-5 FT | 5 REB | 4 AST | 16 PTS | +11

Most interesting part of Kemba’s line? 3 steals and 3 blocks for the diminutive point guard. On 3 occasions, Kemba helped break up Pacers’ fast breaks by getting ahead of the ball handler and stripping the ball as they went up for a shot (resulting in blocks instead of steals).

Jeff Adrien, PF 15 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -11

I like Adrien’s aggressiveness on the glass and recognize that he plays somewhat angrily to achieve those results. But when he turned the ball over after tripping over Brendan Haywood’s feet while chasing down a rebound, it seemed that Jeff carried his frustration around for a while, as he was still angrily motioning about it the next time down the court to Mike Dunlap.

Ramon Sessions, PG 22 MIN | 2-11 FG | 3-3 FT | 2 REB | 6 AST | 7 PTS | -24

Another rough shooting night for Ramon, though he was the Bobcats’ best distributor with 6 assists. He also happened to be on the court for a lot of Indiana’s three pointers, but I need to go back and watch again before I lay those at his feet.

Ben Gordon, SG 26 MIN | 9-14 FG | 2-3 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 21 PTS | -12

Ben’s shots were falling tonight (not because they were all great looks, but that’s what you sign up for with BG) and he helped keep the Bobcats in the game once the offense stagnated.

Three Things We Saw

  1. Indiana grabbed 17 offensive rebounds. The Bobcats pulled in 29 defensive rebounds. That’s a 63% defensive rebound rate – and yes, that would be the worst in the league.
  2. Turnovers were even, which would seem like a good thing. The problem for the Bobcats was that the Pacers had 11 steals among the Bobcats 14 turnovers, while Charlotte had just 5. Steals lead to fast break points, which Charlotte needs, so that’s not the side of that inequality they want to be on. (And yes, Charlotte did have 18 fast break points to just 8 for Indiana – but that apparently wasn’t a large enough advantage)
  3. Indiana wound up shooting 11 of 28 from three point range, and those looks were largely created from the Bobcats doubling in the post, and the Pacers kicking out to open shooters. This seems to be a combination of strategy and personnel – the Bobcats are a bit thin at the 4 right now, but the way the doubles were sent and the timing made it seem like it was planned, not just players scrambling to help. They’ll need to find a better balance of when and how those doubles get sent, because it did not cause much issue for the Pacers tonight.

6 comments to Pacers take all of the rebounds, win

  • SirGladiator

    The rebounding issue is getting pretty extreme. Biyombo seems to have lost the ability to rebound, and since he doesn’t do much else, that’s extra bad. Obviously if we rebounded tonight, we win. But we also win if Indiana doesnt get lucky with all those 3s near the end of the game too, and thats the type of thing I can live with a lot easier than giving away the easy layups and dunks, and not rebounding. Rebound the darn ball, if they’d done that, then I wouldn’t have been upset at all with the loss, because we were in it at the end, and would’ve quite possibly won except they seemed to hit every 3 they threw up at the end, in a close game thats obviously going to result in a loss, just gotta say ‘Merry Christmas’ and move on. But because we could’ve won just by rebounding, thats what makes tonight’s loss brutal. The responsibility obviously falls on the coach to teach them how to get position and rebound, especially for a young guy like Biyombo. Somebody’s gotta step up and get it done. Maybe one of those trades I keep hearing about will come through. Cousins, Gortat, somebody, anybody, whoever knows how to come in and actually play Center like a real NBA player, score points and get rebounds, that sure would make this team a WHOLE lot better, and way more fun to watch.

  • Spencer/SDS

    @sir…indiana=5th best offensive rebounding team by % of opportunities to get offensive rebounds at getting 29.9% percent of the offensive rebounds possible…Charlotte is 14th, @ getting 27.5% of the possible offensive rebounds that they can get…they are also tied with the Thunder in the statistic…of Charlotte players Biyombo is the 2nd best offensive rebounder (adrien might be better) getting 3.7 OR Per 40 minutes and 2.4 offensive rebounds in 25.2 minutes per game

    Defensive rebounding, Indiana is ranked 7th overall in the league by %, Charlotte 29th by%, why is Charlotte so much worse @ defensive rebounding then offensive rebounding??? well because Charlotte likes running, Meaning, they don’t mind giving up extra possessions defensively so they can get more EASY points offensively. Charlotte is currently 3rd overall in points off of fast breaks, scoring 17.7 fast break points per game, Indiana is 20th, getting 12.1 fast break points per game…

    In total…Charlotte is not a bad rebounding team, it is the philosophy of the team that makes us (currently) a bad rebounding team and it is because we can’t score in half court offense and that isn’t only because of Biyombo…who else is at fault…well 1: Warrick, starting in place of Mullens we sourly miss…2) MKG, can only score efficiently off of driving to the basket…not bad but he isn’t a great guy to pass the ball out (yet) and is one dimensional offensively…3)Biyombo also hurts…except this game where he happened to be better then MKG offensively…he didn’t play out of his role on the team

    In total, the issues are , we don’t have Mullens, a better re bounder then Warrick and offensive player that spreads the floor out, we are young and looking at developing the players we have, and are not going to get a Gortat…or Paul, or Varejoe, if we did we would be falling back into the trap that the Bobcats have been in for the last 3+ years…only guy i would be willing to look at is Cousins and even then the only player i would trade would be Henderson(cuz i want McLemore) i would back away from any trade that Sacramento wants that includes (Walker, Taylor, MKG, Mullens, Biyombo, this years 1st)…
    Season Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

    1986-87 PF 77 1 15.0 2.8 5.1 .545 0.0 0.0 .000 1.0 1.6 .587 2.1 2.2 4.3 0.7 0.5 0.6 1.2 2.2 6.5

    1987-88 PF 82 32 26.2 4.9 8.6 .561 0.1 0.2 .294 1.9 3.5 .535 3.9 4.8 8.7 1.3 0.9 0.5 1.9 3.3 11.6
    (who’s first two seasons is this)

    Season Age Tm Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

    1996-97 22 WSB PF 34 0 197 16 46 .348 0 0 6 20 .300 25 33 58 2 8 11 18 27 38

    1997-98 23 WAS C 67 16 1124 85 164 .518 0 0 35 98 .357 112 212 324 18 61 72 28 116 205

    1998-99 24 WAS C 46 16 1231 115 199 .578 0 0 47 132 .356 137 247 384 18 50 90 36 111 27

    (first 3 seasons?)

  • Spencer/SDS

    opps copied the wrong category for the second guy lol^^

    Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

    1996-97 22 WSB NBA PF 34 0 5.8 0.5 1.4 .348 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.6 .300 0.7 1.0 1.7 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.5 0.8 1.1

    1997-98 23 WAS NBA C 67 16 16.8 1.3 2.4 .518 0.0 0.0 0.5 1.5 .357 1.7 3.2 4.8 0.3 0.9 1.1 0.4 1.7 3.1

    1998-99 24 WAS NBA C 46 16 26.8 2.5 4.3 .578 0.0 0.0 1.0 2.9 .356 3.0 5.4 8.3 0.4 1.1 2.0 0.8 2.4 6.0

    hope this helps some

  • spaceman mike

    You can quote all the statistics you want, ive watched every game this season and they are really bad at rebounding. They need a quality player down low. I agree with the first comment, we need a trade. Our downlow options are either emaciated or Diop. Even getting Byron back wont help us. He plays no defense and his long 3 balls leaves us out of position for a rebound.

  • Spencer/SDS

    1) ehh i give up with trying to prove a point with people with the patience and memory of a squirrel…

  • charlottean

    his long 3′s leave us out of position for defensive rebounds? how are his long 3′s any different from any other shot? most offensive boards come either in transition or on long rebounds. somebody doesn’t watch much basketball. us being outrebounded statistically has wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more to do with OUR poor shooting %’s and our poor team defense. it isn’t much of an indictment on biz or byron for that matter. both have had monster rebouding games so hard for you to criticize it like they can’t. they will get more consistent with time.

    bismack is rebounding fine…..you can’t control where the ball goes and he only played 21 minutes. I don’t really know why either, he did fine on hibbert. stephenson lighting up gordon and sessions was way more of a problem. of course it was a bi product of the west on warrick matchup. surprised tyrus didn’t play AT ALL but i also prefer sticking with less players and more minutes as that tends to be more productive. not sure TT would have been any different.

    I thought they played well all in all. It was an up and down game the whole time. what kemba did was incredible, but at the same time george hill was pretty nice as well.

    they’ve got to get henderson better shots. he’s only getting shots on his own and last year was solid proof that the guy is money coming off of screens (as gordon does), they need that more for hendo.