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Bobcats sweep Warriors on the season; finish west coast trip at 3-1

Charlotte Bobcats 91 Final
Recap | Box Score
75 Golden State Warriors
Josh McRoberts, PF Shot Chart 30 MIN | 4-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 9 PTS | 0

Good minutes + production from McBob tonight. I feel like when he’s able to knock down a 3 early, which he did tonight, it always tends to get the opposing team off balance, defensively. Teams wants to sag off of McRoberts and clog up action inside of the paint, but McBob’s resurgence from deep this season has made that tough for the opposition to consistently accomplish.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF Shot Chart 23 MIN | 2-4 FG | 3-4 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 7 PTS | +7

Assertive getting to the rim early on in this game. Also, did a nice job on Andre Iguodala tonight, who scored just 6 points on 3-8 shooting. The stat sheet doesn’t look good, but so much of what MKG does never appears in stats. We’re talking about a guy who sets the tempo defensively for this team and that’s exactly the identity that makes them successful.

Al Jefferson, C Shot Chart 39 MIN | 12-22 FG | 6-10 FT | 13 REB | 3 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 30 PTS | +16

Ho-hum, ho-hum. Jefferson with another 30-point performance and double-digit rebounds.

Clifford on Jefferson post-game: “There’s not many guys like him. He can pivot off both feet with great balance. That’s what he was missing earlier in the year, with his ankle injury – he couldn’t pivot off the other foot. He’s just so hard to guard.”

Kemba Walker, PG Shot Chart 33 MIN | 3-11 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 7 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 7 PTS | +15

Struggled from the floor tonight, but really, that was to be expected. Kemba was getting his wind back tonight, yet was still able to log 33 minutes. 15 fast-break points was phenomenal for Charlotte and Kemba was a big part of the success in the open floor.

Gerald Henderson, SG Shot Chart 37 MIN | 8-17 FG | 1-2 FT | 8 REB | 6 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 17 PTS | +7

I have to give Hendo an awesome grade for this performance – impacting the game in every area. Looking to distribute and get his shot when the respective opportunities were appropriate – a sign of a smart player who’s basketball IQ is only improving.

Anthony Tolliver, PF Shot Chart 22 MIN | 4-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 11 PTS | +6

Tolliver is better than he’s ever been in his career from behind-the-arc and it’s a big part of why this team is a better 3-point shooting team than most believe they should be. The back-to-back 3′s in the 4th quarter, after Golden State had sliced the Charlotte lead to 12 put this one out of reach.

Bismack Biyombo, C Shot Chart 9 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | 0

Just 9 min, but 6 rebounds in that span. I’ll take it.

Ramon Sessions, PG Shot Chart 29 MIN | 2-7 FG | 2-3 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 6 PTS | +13

Sessions was clearly back to playing his old style – throw his body at the rim as wildly as possible. Nice to have Kemba + Sessions on the floor together again – puts two ball-handlers on the floor and forces defenses to take on tons of PnR pressure.

Steve Clifford

The Bobcats have improved defensively as much as any team in the league and it’s because of the implementation of Clifford. Charlotte held one of most explosive offensive teams in the NBA tonight to 31.2% from the field – season low.

Four Things We Saw

  1. Per NBA.com/Stats — Charlotte is best in the entire league at limiting opponents points/possession in transition. Tonight they held Golden State to just 4.
  2. Golden State is 2nd in the league in 3FGM/game (9.4) – they shot 4-20 (20%) tonight.
  3. The road doesn’t get any easier for the Bobcats leading into the all-star break: Saturday at home vs. San Antonio, Tuesday at home vs. Dallas, Wednesday @ Brooklyn — all current playoff teams.
  4. This 4-game west coast trip (3-1) was an enormous statement for the Bobcats. For starters, it was against the western conference, which is clearly the superior conference in the NBA. Secondly, 2 of the 3 wins came without Kemba Walker. Charlotte looking more-and-more like a playoff team as the all-star break approaches.

30 comments to Bobcats sweep Warriors on the season; finish west coast trip at 3-1

  • Billy

    Can you talk to someone at ESPN to get that “Tank Rank” update off the Bobcats page? Annoying that they are just putting that up expecting an ultimate demise. Bobs are trending up, not down.

  • Dave Walshy

    I didn’t see this game but can someone who did try to give me an explanation to how Biyombo gets 6 rebounds and a block in 9 minutes and doesn’t get any more playing time than that. Also, all it takes for Tolliver to get an A+ is 12 points and 2 rebounds (biyombo got a C). I understand these are gauged on expectations but does anyone agree that should be a sign that there isn’t much point in us playing Tolliver so much at the expense of the players that are probably going to need to be the future of the team? I’m just so confused about how Biyombo is being handled. Zeller didn’t even do enough to get a grade and he still saw double the minutes that Biz did.

  • Spencer/SDS

    Tolliver is getting minutes because Taylor is hurt…plus apparently we don’t like MDR enough to give him the minutes tolliver gets…rather have the young guy that will unlikely be here next yr who can defend and shoot the 3 play then him…but whatever

    Biyombo gets no minutes because he just gets what Jefferson doesn’t play and Zeller just gets what McRoberts doesn’t play…Clifford isn’t fancy by any means in his minutes and how he views a players position (other then sessions he doesn’t play anyone out of their “designated” position…pretty sure he has never played a guy over someone else for a specific situation at the end of a game or to take advantage of a mismatch…very un-creative to say the least.

  • Dave Walshy

    I had a feeling at least most of Tolliver’s minutes were at SF but I wasn’t sure. I would rather have MDR play those minutes too but like you said, it is kind of whatever. I feel like it would be better if McBob, Biyombo, Zeller basically split minutes at PF in that order of preference with maybe Biyombo getting the most if playing him with Jefferson worked, but I feel like there is no chance of Clifford trying that at this point even though I think there is some merit to the idea. Clifford confuses me. He is supposed to be defensive minded and yet the player who is by far our best defensive big can hardly get on the court and McRoberts never sees less than 30 minutes because apparently he is “important” to the offense…

  • Spencer/SDS

    ya CDR*…some reason thought it was Michael and not Chris…

    His concept is very simple…Effort…yup…its basically just doing what Dunlap did…but on defense…rather then wasting energy on the fast break every time, we go to running back/using that energy on getting back on defense…then we don’t have a complete idiot in Mullens on D and just play with effort/court vision. A good defensive team isn’t that hard to create…just requires effort and obviously some talent…but doesn’t require a ton (look at Jefferson and McRoberts…neither are very good defensively and yet we still are a good defensive team)…Clifford chooses energy on the defensive end…and is allowed to do so because of Jefferson being so efficient on the offensive end (something Dunlap didn’t have…a half court option that can do it nearly every play)…

    Clifford is no genius…just doing what tons of defensive coaches have done before…focused on defense energy value wise…and have a big that can do it play to play…

  • NCTony

    When Biz is on the floor,, and Cats are on offense Biz man leaves him and we play 4 on 5.

    He has limited value- must be traded. is only kept because He’s Cho’s pick and moving him admits failure by the GM who drafted him. I’ll bet he sees even less time once Haywood comes back if he’s not tradd at trade deadline.

    1) no hands 2) can’t dribble 3) can’t create his own shot, 4) can’t shoot beyond 5 feet) can’t space himself, 6) can rebound, 7) can’t be passed to because he drops ball instant turnover ( you can see it on his team mates faces he gets the perfect dime and loses the ball), 8 ) can dunk ( when he keeps ball above his waist), 9) can set a pick, 10) can block shots, 11) doesn’t position himself well defensively 12) gets no respect from refs

    He’s a marginal NBA Talent .

    Get over it!!

  • Spencer/SDS

    He did that a lot towards the end of last year.

    Mostly blocks early in the highlight reel. Always in good defensive position…differences this year mostly??? Defensive rotation is horrible…why??? Because Jefferson and McRoberts don’t play help defense, thus how can anyone be used to it when a big man actually does it??? (bad vocals by the entire defense is the issue there generally) His post game albeit not great, isn’t awful, especially with this years development program with Ewing and Jefferson actually being able to teach him something on the block.(albeit very limited due to clifford)
    Catching IS an issue, his biggest issue with it is when it is below his hips…above them he uses those big paws well…needs to learn how to take a grounder in baseball or something to get used to catching a ball low.

    Conclusion: issue is the same as it is with Zeller and MKG…he isn’t allowed to touch the ball due to the coach and coaching…i’m confident he has ZERO plays drawn up for him…Clifford (as stated a hundred times before by me) is the WORST coach in the league to develop a player with what he has shown this year…he gives no leash or respect that hasn’t already been earned through another coach or organization…Plus with Haywood he was WORSE then Biz last year, how the hell is he going to take any minutes??? He does NOTHING better…other then maybe sit in the paint like a fat ass and wave his hands at people (JEfferson).

  • Spencer/SDS


    1:23 nice faceup jumper
    1:34 nice post move

    Right off the bat a bit lucky, but nice touch gets you those rolls
    0:29, working the post, abusing the PG
    Rest are nice dunks, good D and being allowed to sit in the post like Jefferson

    Rookie year vs Howard
    3:10 nice move you like to see on that offense

    He has the ability, just is NEVER given the chance…to bad he hasn’t gotten a chance that the suns are giving Miles Plumlee or the pistons with Drummond. You will never show anything if you are never given the chance to do so…with Clifford as the head coach until Jeffersons tears an mcl and acl, Tolliver breaks both hands and a rib and McRoberts leaves the NBA to be a beard and hair model we won’t see anything from MKG, Zeller or Biyomob…why??? Because Clifford does not know how to develop players, he knows how to take what was built before him and mix it with the most simplistic strategies possible…I hope Biz, MKG, and Zeller…they will never be given a chance under Clifford…

  • Spencer/SDS

    Biz, MKG, and Zeller are traded*…to bad last yrs attempt to make posts editable didn’t work out very well:(

  • Dave Walshy

    I’m not seeing him drop as many passes and his true shooting percentage and almost all of his advanced stats have significantly improved. He has shown an elite ability to block shots and rebound and plenty of overall defensive potential. Even if all he can ever do is rebound/block/dunk as long as he does it well he will be very good. He has shown flashes of this and his playing time has randomly been slashed recently. Was Tyson Chandler a marginal NBA talent? He may never be that good but I don’t see how you could rule out the distinct possibility of him getting fairly close so readily. He is still 21. Your opinion seems rather short sighted. Its not even like the people playing ahead of him are doing anything good at all other than Jefferson obviously. McBob occasionally hits a couple threes and occasionally gets 5-6 assists but he also only averages 5 rebounds in 30 minutes. Biyombo gets slightly more rebounds and twice as many blocks in half the minutes. He might already be our second best big…

  • Dave Walshy

    None of this takes into consideration the fact that there is actually a large disincentive for this team winning games. Even if he caused the offense to struggle enough to make us a little worse this year it would obviously be worth it in the long run.

  • charlottean

    it’s getting more and more likely every day that we only get portland’s pick this draft. all it will take is new york and one other team out of boston/sacramento/lal to pass them down the stretch and they’re slotted 8th barring a lottery miracle from a team 9-14.

    how effed up is it going to be when this turns out to be the best draft class since 2003? or if picks 8-12 net a slew of stud starter caliber guys?

    i would love to see mcroberts get moved in the next 2 weeks. derrick williams, ersan ilyasova, anything. something. tick tock on this deadline. arguably the most critical in the history of the franchise thus far. holding too many expiring contracts, too many assets not to be able to land something major.

    jefferson + mcroberts for amare and hardaway or shumpert. throw in sessions for felton. amare is playing BALL this year. just as much as jefferson, but he’s a far better fit with the personnel. could you imagine the defense of a kemba/shumpert/mkg/stoudemire/biyombo lineup? i know i’m dreaming. they will never trade jefferson he’s the god that has carried us to be on pace for 36 wins.

    but seriously, that would be a major net improvement.

  • Dave Walshy

    Yeah when he said Haywood was going to take Biyombo’s minutes when he comes back I kind of couldn’t take the rest of what he said about Biz seriously. Haywood is literally one of the absolute worst players in the entire league. It was literally painful and pathetic watching him last year. He is terrible at everything except he is an acceptable defensive rebounder I suppose.

  • Dave Walshy

    It is ok if we completely squander this team’s future and blow the team up again in 3 years as long as we get the privilege of getting embarrassed by Indiana in the first round this year.

  • charlottean

    i just look forward to MKG, biyombo, and zeller playing elsewhere at this point. the only way we will start to learn is if these guys get out soon enough to realize potential elsewhere. biyombo going to philly or new orleans or houston or wherever would be the best thing for him. mkg going anywhere would be better than here. even teams that already have a 3 would play him at the 2 or the 4 just to get him on the floor.

  • Dave Walshy

    I want Kemba to get traded. It is looking more and more like my favorite player is going to be too loyal and rot in Charlotte forever. MKG is a frustrating situation. Probably more than Biyombo honestly considering his crazy potential and the fact that his minutes get cut for Anthony Tolliver…

  • charlottean

    I think all 3 (mkg, biyombo, and zeller) have insane potential. I will take an elite limited skill set all day every day to a well rounded mediocre guy (mcroberts).

    I like kemba, but I don’t love him. I think my perception of him would be far more positive if we had gotten a 1st round pick for augustin instead of ruining him AND letting him walk for no compensation. Good to see him land on his feet in chicago. Would love to see chicago upset somebody in the 2nd round (I fully expect they win whatever their round 1 matchup is assuming it isn’t miami/indiana).

    I want them to either figure their ish out and fire rod higgins or to make one more dampier like trade so I can absolutely stop being a hometown fan. They’ve almost run me off already.

    I’m between a dampier level trade, or seth curry getting a call up and going all linsanity or something. either of those is going to send me over the edge.

  • NCTony

    I said don’t be surprised if ” they” play Haywood and sacrifice Biyombo in a trade

    Zeller and MKG are staying.

    I’m here at season tix holder autograph session. I’ll say high to Biz before he goes…

  • NCTony

    The sad fact is Biz is not the future – not for us or anyone in the NBA.

    He can fulfill a role!! Never more than that.

  • NCTony

    One last thing how many minutes has Al and Biz played on court at same time??

    So claiming no help from Al is dead wrong.

    Usually Biz is on with Cody but there are times McBob are there together.

  • Dave Walshy

    I can understand how an Augustine fan would feel that way about Kemba. I was pretty disappointed when Charlotte drafted him because it seemed completely pointless for them to draft him when their current best player was an undersized scoring point guard. It really had me scratching my head. I guess I’m glad they decided to ruin DJ instead of him… I kind of wonder sometimes how good Kemba might look by now had he been drafted by a franchise that wasn’t so inept and hellbent on ruining everything and everyone.

    Biz isn’t the future in the sense that he is a future superstar or even all-star player but he could easily become a very good starter, which is a lot more than you can say for some of the guys playing over him. Is McRoberts the future? He seems to have pretty much maxed out his potential and he is at best a solid backup. Zeller has potential but has performed terribly so far.

    MKG has the most potential of anyone on the team and might already be the third best player (strong case for Hendo too) and he barely gets over 20 minutes most games. Tolliver gets as many minutes and he would literally be difficult to trade for a second round pick. I guess the plan was to tank as hard as possible for two years and acquire as much young talent as possible and then right when they are on the verge of possibly breaking out sacrifice them for mediocre (at best) journeymen and a chance to make the playoffs for one year only because everyone else in the conference is trying as hard as possible to not make the playoffs. They are going to find out just how much they don’t belong in the playoffs when they have to face a locked in Indiana team (and will be left with significantly less means for improving) and probably have their confidence shot even more than if they had all out tanked this year. I guess the franchise might make some money being able to market the Hornets as a “playoff team”. That is really the only benefit I see to this years strategy.

  • NCTony

    Now your talking. It is about money (too), but also getting rid of the cancerous losing couture. If they get to 6 slot then it’s worth it. It’s also worth it to play meaningful games late in year to see what kind of pressure these guys can play under. Even if we get waxed by Indy or Heat, players will learn more competing in playoffs vs tanking.

    This team as constructed is one offensive player from a 4/5/6 playoff sly, and if we could get 2 offensive two way players, well then we may have something.

    Tolliver has been pleasant surprise and good off the bench guy. The guys just love him.

    The players are not going to tank. When talking to them tonight you could feel their confidence.

    By the way, Biz is just the nicest guy on the team, great personality, and respectful of us fans. I wish he would just step up… Hate to say it Haywood was in great physical shape. This team gets along.

    McRoberts is on a two year contract with player option. So he’s not the long term, he’s trying to bring Cody Along, as is Al with Buz. Biz and Al sit together, and you could see genuine like for each other.

    I hope Biz can pick it up.. But after 3 years of seeing a lot if the same, like I said every pass he gets that could be an easy two is an adventure. Most he fumbles( not all) but that can’t happen.

    It’s also easier for guards to step right in / while 4′s and 5′s need time to develop – I’d be lying to you if I said he was improving – he is very much the same when it comes to his hands, his shot etc. He could be a role player or starter for great offensive team.

    Let’s see what happens-

  • Dave Walshy

    It is going to be hard to get two offensive two way players if we end up only getting Portlands pick or even Portland and Detroit. Even if we get a 5th seed we are still getting bounced first round and will likely be back to struggling to make the playoffs. I don’t think the eastern conference could possibly be this pathetic next year so even IF we improve to .500 next year we are still likely 6-8 seed (instead of possibly 4th this year) getting bounced in the first round. None of these scenarios do anything to get us any closer to actually having a chance to compete with elite teams in the playoffs. If the goal is to be a perpetual 6-8 seed for a few years this is fine but I don’t see why that would be anyone’s goal. I think the presence of Kemba/Al/Hendo is enough to get rid of the losing culture without playing us out of our best asset. I may seem kind of negative about this team but I actually think they have built a very good young core that with Al and our potential draft picks could end up actually being elite. I just don’t understand why the strategy for this year was one that involves throwing our best asset in the trash. The difference between 30 wins and 36 wins isn’t going to have any effect on the losing culture that already seems to be on its way out whether or not we make the playoffs, and a playoff birth this year literally means nothing due to the tank race going on in the East. I don’t see how three straight embarrassing blowout losses to the Heat or Pacers are going to help anyones confidence. This years success is mostly fools gold(should be Jefferson’s nickname). The players aren’t going to tank but playing Biyombo/Zeller a lot of minutes could likely help us keep our pick which could give this group a real shot at something good. Maybe everyone is just so used to Charlotte being bad that perspective has been skewed and now mediocrity seems to be an acceptable end goal. This attitude is why this franchise is never going to be a serious threat to do anything other than be a sacrificial lamb. I don’t understand how so many people could not only accept but actively support what is going on. I haven’t even been following this team for three full years and it already has me to the point where I just hope Kemba gets traded so I won’t have to root for this disaster anymore, and that is after actually coming around and having a positive outlook after last season. I have a feeling you are going to completely forget about how nice it felt to make the playoffs this year when the team is getting blown up in a few years. I don’t see how you can possibly say Biyombo isn’t improving… Literally almost every advanced stat has gone up significantly and some of the more important ones have skyrocketed. You can just tell by watching him he has improved. When in his first year did he show the ability to get 20 rebounds in a game or shoot over 60% from the field?

  • Dave Walshy

    I guess it could be pretty entertaining seeing the soul crushed faces of all the hopeful fans watching McRoberts try to guard David West or Tolliver on James in the playoffs.

  • NCTony

    Like I’ve said – I sit 5 rows behind Bobcats Bench. You get to see quite a bit more than you see on TV. Body language, facial expressions etc. It’s not all in the stats – it’s also what you see. What I see is, he is a project still yes at 22. The smell test says … Oh well it’s just not a pleasant one lets leave it there.

    He needs to step up his game soon otherwise he’ll be in D league or European league and we’ll be seeing him again when he’s 28.

    Last year, Biz played vs Starters for most part. This year he plays mostly against opponents second team. (FWIW). Don’t think its realistic to compare stats going all out in 12 mins per game translates to 36/40 mins due to pacing and fatigue versus all out . Most pundits, analysts etc don’t have much positive to say about the Biz. Think his current role is more suited to his current skills set.

    I think Zeller is getting meaningful minutes and more crucial times. Biz role is much less right now, and I can’t believe you guys keep arguing for his future versus the now. It is a business. Jordan needs to make some profits sooner or later and the playoffs certainly put teams in the black, also helps sell the future to free agents and rookies.

    Team has improved quite a bit with MKG back. He has many intangibles that are not found on stat sheet. Doubt they want to trade him. Same for Zeller.

    So bottom line is Biz is under performing regardless of what advance stats say. Just watch the games while he’s playing. Every now and then he really plays a good game, but it’s never consistent enough.

  • Spencer/SDS

    But how can you get said consistency (consistency in confidence as well) when your minutes are all over the place…going from 20 mins one game (very rare at this point) to 8 the next??? Its hard to get into a rhythm when nothing is ever the same…players generally are able to find a way to max out their talents in the minutes given to them…but if you play 20 mins a game, when expecting 8 your going to run your gasket out early…then if you expecting 20 but get 8 you might coast a little bit more (its very small differences in hustle/how much energy you use but players do it…even if its not on purpose they will do it subconsciously).

    He is a project offensively at 21, but has showed a diverse offensively game being built slowly…last year (although we haven’t seen in this year-Clifford….) he showed a nice jumper around the key…it was fluid and he has a nice stroke…but its never going to become a key asset for him if he is never allowed to shoot it…his post game shows flashes of what he could be, he has a nice hook, he has good footwork when he just plays and doesn’t get his head in the way…but when you never get the ball how can you just block your mental state out and just play by instinct??? its nearly impossible to do so. Biz is a good defensively player and rebounder already, his offensive game has shown glimpses in a multitude of areas of actually turning into a 12-14 PPG type of player if given the opportunity…Especially with as you said in your last post with Jefferson there helping him along offensively and Ewing…

    Watching Bismack and Jefferson in small clips from the off-season talking you can tell they get along extremely well no doubt about that. The team (mainly the veterans) are probably happier then last year…where dunlap was a bit overboard with conditioning (Haywood and Gordon specifically seemed to have problems with him over it).

    Zeller 20 MPG, Biyombo 20 MPG, MKG 30 MPG would make me a happy guy at this point…Give Jefferson his 34, have Biyombo and Jefferson paly 6 minutes a game on court together and just keep those consistent minutes going…Don’t coach to win the game in the 1st-3rd, coach to get better…in the 4th care for the win let the starters play 10 minutes ea in the 4th if need be…but let the 1st-3rd be the building quarters…Run plays specifically for the young guys rather then just constantly feeding Jefferson…coach the team as if you actually know you arn’t going to do anything with this starting core because it simply isn’t…only way it ever does anything is if you allow Biz, Zeller and MKG build upon their game.

  • charlottean

    tony your logic is absolutely backwards. for 1 – he’s 21, not 22. meaning last year, he was 20.

    2 – while you say the numbers don’t extrapolate out over 36 or 40 minutes…….they tend to get better by playing more minutes, not worse. biz has proven his numbers to be OK over the past 2 years, but now he’s increased his ability to finish at the rim, he’s increased his rebounding, he’s increased his FT%, he’s kept the shot blocking even though clifford’s scheme avoids taking defensive risks (which is why we lose close games).

    the guy has shown growth and has absolutely showed that he is AT THE VERY LEAST a top 10 rebounder/shotblocker/defender at the 5 position who can finish at the rim with authority a few times a game. and he’s shown he can make a little jump shot here and there. the kid can play ball. you play him up and coach him up and he’s something LEGIT by 23-25. or you let him rot on the bench and he becomes a solid role player for a contender when we let him go. teams win championships with guys like biyombo over and over and over yet you want to say he can’t play in this league? absolutely nuts.

    the location of your seats doesn’t affect your logic. the guy can play.

  • NCTony

    Charlottean your in love with the pretty girl. I get it. I completely disagree with your minutes extrapolation and they have always been suspicious of Biz age anyway. Rumors have it he’s 3 years older – so he’s 21.5 years 5 months old versus 22 sorry…

    I don’t see it — but you are allowed to believe what you want. I’ve been saying all along at best he’s a role player, I can buy into that. I’m saying its unfortunate we went after him as a # 7 first round lottery pick. That he’s not or not shown yet. He would be fine fit on Heat or Clippers or Thunder. Even the Knicks.

    Let’s see what happens.. And again being a Bobcats fan , I hope you are right and I’m wrong.

  • charlottean

    you cannot argue that biz is growing into being a ben wallace, tyson chandler, chris anderson, type of center. you said it yourself, he would fit in great on contenders. that’s the whole point. if we’re trying to build a contender, that’s the guy we want.

    those guys win championships.

    and that’s part of the value in him being that guy…..you develop his offense MORE than those guys, and sign him to a cheaper deal than those guys (think 5mil a year for 5 years) and you reap the rewards big time.

    It always comes back to the age thing with the detractors. if he IS 25 or 26….then yeah he is what he is (still an nba rotation big) and i would have less faith in a leap to becoming a dominant defensive big. but you would also want to fire everybody in the front office for not doing their jobs and finding that out in pre draft due diligence. If there was any doubt what so ever, you don’t invest a top 10 pick on a guy in that situation. any doubt. but i tend to trust FBI background checks and bone density testing over the rumor that he might be older which ironically never comes up for the european guys like saric or hezonja or rubio or karasev. it would be really odd for him to have only played 2 years of professional ball ANYWHERE and be that size and that athletic. not to mention, he’s the 2nd most famous dude in DR of Congo. somebody would have put him on blast by now. social media era…..nothing flies under the radar for long. aren’t his parents politicians or something well known? but YES, everything i say has the * of “please disregard if this dude is 25 or older” by all means.