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Bobcats rolled in Brooklyn

Charlotte Bobcats 89 Final
Recap | Box Score
105 Brooklyn Nets
Josh McRoberts, PF Shot Chart 27 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 13 PTS | -21

Although McBob has been shooting the ball well lately, it probably means that Brooklyn did a nice job defensively if he took 7 shots from deep.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF Shot Chart 30 MIN | 3-6 FG | 1-2 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | -17

I have no complaints here. We’re all just going to wait patiently for you to learn how to get to the foul line.

Al Jefferson, C Shot Chart 28 MIN | 5-13 FG | 2-3 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 12 PTS | -21

Jefferson had 11 points at the end of the 1st quarter and then Brooklyn pretty much said enough is enough. Double teams came in the blink-of-an-eye in the 2nd quarter and the Big Al train slowed down tonight.

Kemba Walker, PG Shot Chart 38 MIN | 6-17 FG | 2-3 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 16 PTS | -24

Much more active offensively tonight and is looking 100% healthy to me. Kemba was forced into many shots during 3rd quarter due to how well Brooklyn was defending Jefferson.

Gerald Henderson, SG Shot Chart 28 MIN | 3-11 FG | 0-1 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 7 PTS | -24

BOO! Don’t go back there Hendo. Don’t you do it!

Anthony Tolliver, PF Shot Chart 26 MIN | 3-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 8 PTS | +7

He’s human again. Tolliver has been unconscious from behind-the-arc recently, but woke up tonight. Elevated minutes due to Charlotte trying to figure out a way to get back in the game for most of the night.

Bismack Biyombo, C Shot Chart 19 MIN | 3-3 FG | 0-2 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 6 PTS | +3

Basically taking the form of what a true backup center should be asked to do in this league.

Ramon Sessions, PG Shot Chart 23 MIN | 4-7 FG | 1-2 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | -4

Couldn’t get to the FT line tonight and neither could the Bobcats.

Four Things We Saw

  1. After a very impressive win and offensive outburst against Dallas last night, the Bobcats came crashing back down to earth tonight. Charlotte shot just 41.4% from the floor and only got to the foul line 15 times – going 7-15 (46.7%) for freebies.
  2. Only turning the ball over 10 times is nice. Only forcing 9 turnovers isn’t so nice. Giving away 18 points off of your 10 turnovers – not so nice either.
  3. Paul Pierce. Or the ghost of him. 9-11 from the floor tonight for 25 points.
  4. It’s all-star break everyone. Enjoy the show this weekend and elevated trade rumors involving the Bobcats.

12 comments to Bobcats rolled in Brooklyn

  • charlottean

    taking the form? the dude was shooting over 63% going into the game. the only thing that changed from the preseason to now was the amount of PT he’s been getting. he’s starting caliber, i don’t see how people who follow basketball don’t see that. there are NOT 20 centers better than biz right now. ALEXIS AJINCA HAS BEEN STARTING FOR NEW ORLEANS MOST OF THIS YEAR (more on that below). robin lopez? roy hibbert? kendrick perkins? birdman? (don’t say it’s bosh) deandre jordan? 85 year old tim duncan? (or tiago splitter) that’s the starting group for the top 6 teams. and this dude is 21. only in charlotte is he a bust and not treated like valancunius, kanter, drummond, len, etc and labeled “untouchable”

    the game at the garden was far more interesting and entertaining and created the most interesting deadline scenario to appear thus far……

    sacramento has been rumored to be wanting to improve backup pg. new york has some pgs they would move, especially for a wild card type player.

    jimmer fredette is from the NY area……dude just hit 6 3′s tonight in the garden (several clutch) for a career high 24 off the bench. jimmer for felton works straight up.

    I so badly want to see this deal happen and woodson just say “eff it” and let fredette go all linsanity in new york for the rest of the year. that would be insanely entertaining and you know if they made that trade and started fredette that it would go that way.

    non-related…..former bobcat watch……ajinca just had a ridiculous 16 and 9 in 22 minutes. i repeat….TWENTY TWO MINUTES. 7 for 7 from the field. what a bust. glad we got najera for him instead of patiently developing him. DAMPIER DEAL JUST KEEPS ON GIVING.

  • NCTony

    In speaking of Ajinca one good game does not define the player. The guy has only played 28 games. Has gad 3 games where he scored in double digits where as 18 of his 28 he scored 4 points or less. Two double digit rebounding games in those 28 averaging 14.8 min a game. Nothing special… Would agree in that he was part of a trade that’s never been explained or understood… Other than LB hated Chandler and we dumped salary.

    You love developing young players and have the patience to wait them out. Drafted in 08 now 2014…

    At Best at this point in time… Biyombo is a backup on this team. He has played two consecutive good games in a row.. Here is to hoping to see keep going and it go up from here.

  • charlottean

    do you even know how to read a stat sheet? he isn’t playing 30mpg…..dude is barely playing. he also did that against the bucks. i know he hasn’t been dominating the league. i’m just making the point that we give up on guys way too early over and over. he has games like that after wasting away for years. he could have been a lot better if we treated him the way indiana treated hibbert. big men don’t hit their prime until like 26 and we keep drafting 18 year olds and giving up after two years.

    and in this case, we didn’t just give up on him at age 20, we took back a horrible salary (najera’s two year deal) in the process. it was insane.

    as for biyombo, there are not 30 centers better than that dude right now. there MIGHT be 20. if he plays starter minutes, he’s a top 10 rebounder, shot blocker, and legit DPOY contender. now. and finishing a high rate on offense. you hate the guy’s game but it’s that kind of play from a center that wins and most championship teams have that guy. like i said…..10-13-4 right now.

  • Dave Walshy

    He was top ten in blocks per game for a season when he was 19 years old. One of the espn scouts said he was the least coached player in the history of the draft. He is still only 21 and some people already have him pegged as a career average backup… When your 21 year old center starts getting 20 rebound games when you give him starter minutes you aren’t supposed to slash his playing time to 10 minutes a game. Why can’t they give him minutes at PF. Give him a few of Mcroberts minutes and a few of Zellers and hes at least over 20 minutes a game.

  • NCTony

    You know Charlotean Do you know how to read? What did I say?

    1). I’m not ever going to be convinced about Ajinca – he’s playing 14 min a game he’s a role player. He had a good game and he is what is. We gave up at the right time but in a stupid trade.
    2) I said Biyombo will not be a starter on ” this team” I’ve also said on right team Biyombo could fit perfectly, this team lacks offense so much ( you know who those guys are) we can’t afford defensive only guys at 2 slots…on court at same time save end of game scenarios.

    3 I also said I never understood the trade made no sense.

    Please stop with the ” can’t you read stuff” it’s insulting .

  • charlottean

    how did we give up at the right time if he’s better than brendan haywood? even if he’s a bottom of the bench minimum level player (which he is more than that right now) he would have been worth keeping around. at age 26….the guy looks like a solid rotational player that could have been a solid starter had he been developed.

    I read what you said…….which was……he only did this in 2 games and he scored 4 or less in a ton of games. I just pointed out that playing time factors into that. doesn’t mean he’s only had 2 good games. it means he’s only had 2 ridiculous games and a bunch of games where he hardly played (some due to poor play, some due to great play by stiemmsma or withey, some due to matchup, some due to him being so new to the team early on/acclimation).

    as for number 2 – you are right – you said “this team” but you’ve said it before many times as a blanket statement. the guy is starter caliber. I think we absolutely CAN afford to have he and MKG on the floor A LOT at the same time. neither one of them are anyhwere near as offensively challenged as many make out to be. we just don’t give them enough touches/shots.

    for number 3 – not even donnie nelson understood that trade.

    as for the insulting stuff….it was intended that way for a reason. you presented his box scores as if they were indicative of his potential output or his overall play. he barely plays. it’s surprisingly positive that he’s had 2 great games this year given they picked him up midseason. it’s not at all surprising that he has so many snoozer games. the point of the whole thing is……..he’s capable, has always been capable and we gave up on a skilled 7 footer at age 20. he was rail thin (AS MOST 20 YEAR OLDS ARE) and he isn’t anymore. what he is now, is half of what he could have been had he been given development minutes all these years.

    Let’s keep in mind that during that time frame……we gave kwame brown, gana diop, boris diaw playing out of position, byron mullens & tyrus thomas (at the 4), etc. minutes that could have gone to developing ajinca. instead of taking back najera. as opposed to ajinca being on the bench in dallas, playing a little in toronto, being out of basketball, and then going back to SIG for a few years. there’s no logic that says that was the best way to develop him as a player. motivate maybe, but develop his game? nope. wasn’t best for the team either as we didn’t gain anything from kwame brown, najera, mullens, whoever.

    i think adam morrison could have been a stud. i think augustin could have been a stud. i don’t think that about ajinca. but a SOLID rotation big? absolutely. a decent starter on a really good team? possibly. not a guy you throw into a deal at age 20 to take back najera during a rebuild either way. that’s the whole argument and that’s the whole point in bringing up a ridiculous 7 for 7, 16 and 9 game in 22 minutes or whatever it was. you miss my point by trying to belittle that game.

    it’s one thing to miss on a draft pick. it’s another thing to bail on him too early when he’s really a stud (see kendall marshall – washington is curiously in need of a backup pg and are paying most of marshall’s salary this year…. brilliant).

    on pace for 35-36 wins and dangerously close to doing so without a lottery pick while a lot of teams below us will get better this offseason. if we sign the wrong guy with the ben gordon cap space, it will be devastating.

  • charlottean

    deadline looming and it’s sounding like nobody is feeling any kind of value for gordon or that portland pick. this could be disastrous.

    would still like to see a big play for eric gordon made. his contract would expire the same year as al’s.

    supposedly the celtics are only asking for 2 unprotected 1′s for rondo. the detroit pick plus next year’s 1 unprotected fits the bill if detroit keeps the pick this year. could throw in kemba to sweeten the pot. sessions would have to go to make salaries work i believe. probably haywood too.

    throw new orleans gordon and the portland pick………rondo, gordon/henderson, mkg, zeller, jefferson/biz would be insane. a godfather offer gets it done. would be ~64 million committed to 9 guys assuming mcroberts opts in. 4 guys at vet minimum or rookie minimum would be under the tax line. i have to say….that seems like a legit contender if jefferson played enough defense or biz played more. rondo would be so much better defensively.

    the worry with giving up 2 1′s for rondo is that he’s only under contract this year and next. and coming off injury. but you would get 2 playoff runs and bird rights. worst case scenario, you trade him to get something back next deadline.

    letting this deadline pass means the chances of making a major splash this year or next decline significantly (which defeats the purpose of being in win-now mode and giving up the lottery pick this year).

    clock is ticking.

  • charlottean

    we need shooting and new orleans has said all the want for anthony morrow is a 2nd round pick. why the eff not? hometown kid who can shoot the lights out. cheap salary, no problem sitting on the end of the bench until needed.

    if they are going for gasol…..makes perfect sense as a mcroberts and gordon for gasol deal if gasol is interested in going hard for a few months and then going back to LA in the summer. highly doubt the lakers do that deal both for perception OR for mcroberts’ player option but realistically, that’s not a horrible deal for both sides. 2.7 for mcroberts as a backup 4 is solid for LA and that doesn’t hinder their ability to sign a big time free agent. they would lose gasol’s bird rights but i don’t think that matters, it may actually help them given that they wouldn’t have his cap hold either. then they could sign him to a midlevel exception or whatever cap space is left after they maneuver this summer. i don’t see gasol getting big money from a contender this summer. saves the lakers a couple million in payroll + luxury tax. gets them within striking distance of clearing the tax altogether i believe. if they threw jordan hill to new york as discussed and swapped kaman or blake for somebody making significantly less using an exception or cap room…..i think it’s feasible. Worth a lot of money to try.

    wouldn’t hurt us to have gasol playing instead of mcroberts for a playoff run. just more exciting. more bandwagoneers. clears up next year for cody, too. or mcroberts opts out (he may have anyways) and you could bring him back at that point if so choose.

    the rumors about caron butler and gary neal……that’s just depressing. if they come away with something like that…..i think i’m done.

  • Spencer/SDS

    Caron Butler is a nobody…and everyone around me (I live around Milwaukee) that likes the bucks would be pissed…he’s a home grown player (raised in Racine just a few miles south)…Fan base would be pissed…would be good for the Bucks player wise but everyone around here already dislikes them somewhat for not staying as a bottom feeding playoff team with no hopes behind Brandon Jennings…

    Gordon and McRoberts for Gasol I could get behind…just because we don’t lose any real key assets development wise and Gasol could do something…kinda…Jefferson and Gasol would be tough for any team in the league to deal with…especially the east other then the Pacers. Ya…I really like that Gasol idea thinking further about it…plus it goes right into Cliffords hands of just throwing the ball at the post 24/7…I’ll take it.

    Morrow is a good option as well…cheap and can actually shoot the ball…with him we could limit Sessions minutes more (rather then playing him as a combo guard) and give us another legit 3 pt threat…which replaces the loss of a McRoberts..

    Issues: Kemba Drive/mid range. Henderson, Drive/midrange/postup MKG: drive, post up. Jefferson: Post up/mid range..Gasol Post up/mid range…can pass the ball

    No one can even attempt to legitimately be a threat at the unless we use kemba as a 2 guard (already is for the most part) and just keep him sitting on the 3pt arc all day.

  • Dave Walshy

    I definitely have a really bad feeling they are going to screw up terribly. We need to do something with all these assets while we have a chance but part of me almost doesn’t want them to make a move because I feel like whatever move they make is going to be terrible. I agree that the people you just discussed would be really bad pickups but some of the other names I hear mentioned seem really bad too. I don’t think we should trade for Turner unless we are giving up very little, like Gordon and the Portland pick or something similar. I think trading for Brandon Bass would be absolutely horrendous. He isn’t even as good as McBob in my opinion. He is older and at best is a 12 point 6 reb guy who can’t play defense and has no intangibles. Almost nothing scares me more than the thought of Higgins and MJ doing a deal with Danny Ainge. We would almost certainly get completely hosed if that happened. I would prohibit everyone in the front office from having any contact with Ainge or even speaking his name until the deadline has passed. Regardless of who we deal with I get the feeling we are going to give up everything for someone mediocre, make the playoffs, get swept by Indiana, then almost immediately fade into obscurity.

  • charlottean

    agree about bass, agree about giving up little for turner. agree about better off doing nothing, but then we lose a lot of the assets that we accumulated because you can’t trade gordon or sessions or mcroberts on draft night with those picks. or adrien or pargo. we have that big contract slot that we don’t really have a whole lot of options free agent wise……….especially if stephenson stays put and or someone trades for hayward.

    it leaves monroe with a bunch of suitors. and us with a potential logjam at the 4.

    and they’re never going to trade jefferson now, either. his agent is probably already talking extension and they are probably already listening. i think his play this year is going to hurt us badly as he ages. he’ll get a monster contract after next year and he’ll be in his 30′s. that defense isn’t going to get better.

    i just feel like we have horrible negotiators in our front office. we’ll never “win” any trades with that.

  • Dave Walshy

    I guess I’d take about anything for Gordon, except Bass… Seems like there should be more interest in Sessions around the league. I wish we could get a young player and a pick for him or even Gordon.